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Post by mpanda »

Hi Jay,

I'd like to run RTB stand alone on my hosting space in order to remotely and periodically consult stats of my streams.
Is it possible or I'm obliged to run RTB here on my pc?

One more question.

Can RTB analyze offline or online shoutcast server logfile?

Thanks.
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Post by Jay »

You must run the Radio Toolbox agent to get the stats. You can run Radio Toolbox on any windows machine so if you have a hosting environment with a windows server you can run it there.

For log analyzing check out www.radiotoolbox.com/downloads/log_analyzer.exe
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Post by mpanda »

Thank you Jay.

I test loganalyzer and it seems the tool I need.

Did you write a kind of glossary to explain terms in order to get the correspondence between raw data logs and stats ?
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No I haven't but if you have any specific questions I would be more then willing to explain what they mean.
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Post by mpanda »

Your willingness is much appreciated.
Hope to not abuse of it.

Logfile reports logs from 02/18 to 03/07 (18 days)

Well, let's start from global report:

Total Duration: 69d 17h 03m 13s
Total Listeners: 27741
Total Unique Listeners: 4645

My guess:

total duration = sum of all time spent listening by each stream hit

total listeners = sum of all stream hits

total unique listeners = sum of all 'just first' stream hits with TSL >=0

Correct?
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Total Duration is basically a TTSL or the Total time spent listening by all listeners combined. Total Listeners is a count of all listeners in the report range. Total Unique is the total amount of unique hosts which have connected to the server in the report range.
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Post by mpanda »

First of all I apologie for delay of this reply but strangely I did not receive notification of your kindest reply to this post.

Anyway I'm here now.... :)

Well, here's my question:

is it possible to 'filter' hosts which connection is around few seconds?
I mean, my goal is to prevent to include 'spiders' or 'robots' in stats counter.
Unfortunately spider's pest is still much diffuse and their presence in logfiles will badly influence webradio's stats.
ADV market need real stats, not doped by robots.
Where you have too many hosts to divide TTSL you cannot get trustable average TSL.
More, if you cannot filter spider's ips it will result hard to trace a geographic map of your real audience.
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the log analyzer is not capable of this at this time because it is an unfiltered view of your stats. It was never written with the intention of being utilized by statistic organizations, just for the station owner's information. Also that level of filtering should be done at the server if the bots bother you.
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Post by mpanda »

Thanks Jay.

Do you have some suggestions how to filter bots at server level?
In the past I try to ban their ips but in few time banlist became so huge to crash shoutcast server.
It seems ban option in shoutcast has designed to filter few ripper ips rather than hundreds of spiders.
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Post by Akastream »

It's really hard to ban the bots. Because they're from around the world
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Post by mpanda »

The most frequently "mob" ISP names present in my logfile are COX and COMCAST, both from USA (there're others of course... several others... but they're upon the list)
They seem to act like a "spider's farm".
Bad....too bad.
In my modest experience so far european ISPs seem to be more serious as they do not give hosting to those kind of 'harmful' activities.
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